The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. Mr. SHEARS: I can remember being really upset and pissed off about that, happening because I had--I had friends here, and I had no time to tell anybody, basically why. KATE: So this man said to me, `Do you know that Shirley Turner's pregnant with your son's child? They also went to Ottawa to push the case for Bill C-464, which had been introduced by then Liberal MP Scott Andrews, at a committee hearing. MORRISON: But as Kurt made his way around the globe, his tribute materialized into something far bigger, and much darker, than anyone could have imagined. Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? Bad things tend not to announce themselves, they just kind of land right on your head. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. He said, `What can happen?'. We were done," Kate Bagby said, finishing her husband's thought, a quirk of their relationship that became apparent during a several-hour recount of how their lives spiraled out of control after that phone call from police. I only live a block away.' (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; birthday party), KATE: He didn't want to open presents, you know, he wanted to get, down. We would've done handstands and cartwheels to. Mr. BAGBY: That's one of the options, and that's the one we hoped for. Unidentified Man #24: Two I have ever known. See rank. ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. put Zachary on her lap to open presents, and he resists. Blu-Ray | DVD, BLU-RAY The 10th Anniversary Blu-Ray and DVD are also available from other retailers listed below, and the digital edition is now available for purchase or rent on iTunes, Amazon Prime Video, and Google Play. For one thing, Shirley, required the Bagbys to bring Zachary to visit her once a week in jail. Schultz quotes the brother of Hae Min Lee, the victim of the murder at the center of the first season of Serial, responding, on Reddit, to the surge of interest in the case: I wont be answering any questions because . I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. Home video captured what looked like a. typical domestic scene, but beneath these happy images lies a darker truth. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again. David Bagby. Then, suddenly, tears. She has to veer away from the image and instead see him as a living being. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. Because this is where you need it. Cpl. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Or what about the one of me and Andrew? The film is by the phenomenal writer, director and composer Kurt Kuenne. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. For those who've asked how Kate & David Bagby are doing now, here's a lovely article from Diane Crocker at Newfoundland's The Western Star. This is Defector, a new sports blog and media company. Much of this DATELINE report incorporates material from Kurt's documentary, as well as something else: the childhood films he made as he taught himself his craft. In New York - August 8-14 at the IFC Center, 323 Sixth Avenue at W. 3rd Street. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. Cpl. We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. We made this place together, we own it together, we run it together. did. The Bagbys couldn't have been happier, particularly since. Click HERE for ticket information. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children. "Kurt Kuenne has crafted a documentary that began as a legacy of a friend in the form of a letter to that friend's child, and that is powerful enough to endure as legend. And he'd be like(turns. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. Just from that, conversation, you could kind of get the sense that she didn't want Zachary, MORRISON: And for the Bagbys, Shirley issued what sounded somehow. thing, because up until Andrew was murdered, I was a Pollyanna. Unidentified Man #21: (Talking in group) I know. Or was this her, way of demanding that they suspend their critical faculties and declare their, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I don't know what to give Zachary. Cpl. We thought of him as a hostage, said David. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. All rights reserved. This documentary starts out like a love letter. Kurt Kuennes 2008 documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, deserves a second look, especially in light of the recent popularity of true-crime programs like Serial and Making a Murderer., Photograph courtesy Oscilloscope Pictures / Everett. And tears are dropping on him, of course, and Kate went to wipe one of those away off his cheek, and a plug came out, where hed been shot in the left cheek. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. (Shirley in court; Supreme Court of Newfoundland sign), Mr. BAGBY: And then they started slogging through the courts with one issue, MORRISON: In the meantime, Andrew's parents made a momentous. Kuenne, a childhood friend of Andrews, started out to make the movie as a tribute to Andrew, but it kept taking on new meanings, first with Zacharys birth and then his death. Dear Zachary had its Canadian premiere at the Hot Docs International Documentary Film Festival in Toronto, where it was welcomed by a line down the street and around the block to get in. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. Dear Zachary will have its World Premiere at the Slamdance Film Festival, January 17-25, 2008 in Park City, Utah! Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). If she had her way, we would not have had any visitation at, MORRISON: Coming up, fighting not just to see their grandson, but. Kate to keep up their end of that bargain. Then, in August 2003, Shirley killed herself and the one-year-old Zachary by jumping into the Atlantic Ocean. Laws governing the, rights of defendants are fairly strong in this country, but there's something, about Newfoundlanders in particular which may have contributed to the judge's, decision to grant bail. whose parents are charged with a violent crime. And that's when she said, `He loves you, more than me. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. They did their best to keep their dark feelings about their son's accused. Check your local listings for channel info. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. Bagby, that man about whom no one had a bad word, was left lying face down in a Pennsylvania state park with five bullets in him. And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. Said, `Oh, no, I really can't.'. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents. They watched the legal proceedings grind, infuriating and slow. But it will also introduce you to some of the most inspiring, strong and caring people ever to grace the big screen."" Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. This film wasn't made to win awards, or, for that matter, even be criticized. I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. They are selfless. Except this story is worse. I got to see what happens to the bastard who did this. It's pretty easy to analyze what the, options are. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I know you don't want to, you don't intend to. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. But their efforts to. KATE: (Zachary hugging Kate) This is your Uncle Kurt. Through a complicated series of delayed hearings and granted bails, Turner remained free for many months while the decision regarding her extradition was in process. Andrew, of all people, seemed to have no enemies at all. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. Also foreshadowing is how long it takes Andrews parents, Kate and David, to wade through various levels of bureaucracy to confirm his death. If. Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbysthe story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. In this way, Dear Zachary inverts the usual way of telling murder stories. April 14, 2009: Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. One of those forgettable pieces of solipsistic pseudo-art that is essentially just a scrapbook that was released to the public and then everyone just said it was good because no one wanted to hurt anyones feelings. What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. MORRISON: There might have been a particular reason for this. It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. We did have him for a little while, she said. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Then the questioner got choked up.the best thing I've seen in Austin (at SXSW)." Bill C-464 when enacted will justify detention in custody for a person accused of a serious crime who is a potential danger to their own minor children. Its not the sort of true crime that leaves you wanting more. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. Mr. SHEARS: Mm, yeah. Its best to watch Kuennes documentary without too much background, but the basic setup is this: On November 6, 2001, Andrew Bagbys body was found, shot five times, in a park near Latrobe, Pennsylvania, where Bagby lived. Awaiting extradition, Turner drowned 13-month-old Zachary and took her own life as well. I mean, we would never, disagree with her or fight with her about anything unless there was real. (Sea at night; photo of Shirley and Zachary; autopsy report; photo of man; photo of Shirley and Zachary; Zachary sleeping; David and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Kate just quit. This film will be one of the best you're likely to see this year." KATE: Ah, it was wonderful. He said, `What do you mean?' When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. Mr. DAVID BAGBY: I threw the phone at the desk, and I jumped up and just screamed, `No! Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number GARDNER: (Audio recording) I understand that. KATE: (To Zachary) Kurt knew your daddy when he was a little boy. An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. Office Manager. Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL I had a job I loved. T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible) Hi, sweetheart. We need each other, have each other to get through this.". The victims choices, preferences, actions, and relationships are either boiled down to a heap of clues and red herrings, or offered as a backdrop in a spirit of dutiful empathy before getting down to the business at hand. We need each other, have each other to get through this, added David. With that kind of goodness, anything is possible. I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. Please consider joining us in this mission by becoming a member of the SaltWire Network and helping to make our communities better. Unidentified Man #20: The weather here is terrible. Oh, my. His father says, I kissed him and held him. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. You are born, you grow up, you make friends, you get a job, a partner, a house, maybe a car, maybe a kid, maybe more. The memory of that visit is of a crying Zachary being taken away from them. report that concluded the child protection system failed Zachary Turner. And I saw that night her malignancy. (Driving through rainy street; correctional facility sign; Andrew; Kurt, Unidentified Woman #8: They would drive two hours to the jail. to reconsider getting some help with that. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. February 24, 2009: You dont get over it. Every last person who steps foot into a theater to see this will walk away changed. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Because this is foreshadowing. Kuenne finished his documentary and dedicated it to the memories of both Bagby and Zachary. (Photo of Andrew; cell phone towers; photo of Shirley; maps; suburban street; photo of house; newspaper clipping; photo of Shirley; maps; cell phone tower; Shirley in court; court documents; flashing police lights; American flag. You were done. MORRISON: Was she taunting them, they wondered? That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. There was plenty of turmoil in the industry, but many shows continued to nourish, illuminate, and delight. Kate Bagby feels her son was too trusting to agree to meet Turner at the park the day he was killed. https://www.saltwire.com//california-couple-want-as-many-/ saltwire.com California couple want as many people as possible to know their story | SaltWire hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. How do you represent the fact that when you see a crime coming from a mile away you still cant do anything to stop it? She was deranged. The reason we go through the lawyers is so that we. We. MORRISON: How'd you feel about having a much younger brother come, Mr. SHEARS: I thought it was great. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. (Photo of Shirley; Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary), Mr. SHEARS: There was a conversation one time she had with me and Erica, in, regards to if something ever happened to her and she had to go to jail or. Skewed imagery. 2015 - 2020. Cpl. In that time, it also becomes clear that Andrews fate is in danger of also becoming his sons. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. Mr. BAGBY: We first got to see him personally in family court. She pushed it back in and cried some more. Far from experiencing the satisfaction of cracking a mystery, the viewer is likely to come away with a feeling of stymied sickness, of hitting the brick wall of a world gone wronga feeling which must be closer to the lived reality of violent tragedy. So I gave her the. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him. He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. It stays so close to Bagby and to the people who loved him that theres never any question that its their side of the story being recounted. Then, upon. keep him safe, which they feared was about to become even more difficult. As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. The film ends with the Bagbys and their relatives, friends, and colleagues reflecting on the father and son, as well as the . prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. And thus the decision from which all else followed. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. I couldn't see the point anymore. And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. You will cry. Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. . In the early years, that included David writing a book, Dance With the Devil, about his sons and grandsons murders, and Kuennes documentary. You can reach out to David Bagby-cantu via phone number 915-383-8358. I--we both did. KATE: You get a different kind of relationship with God after this kind of. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. her. Meeting her at 6. Why would she say that if he wasn't? . Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law. Information on who and where to write can be found by going to the "Support Bail Reform" page. to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. MORRISON: Andrew Bagby. I mean, the best man is really the groom. Kate says everything seemed to be going smoothly, until here. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." We urge everyone to write your MP (if Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if not) urging them to support MP Andrews and his bill as it moves toward a vote in the near future. They had to be nice to Turner, to keep her mellow, and not fight with her. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. Click here for ticket information! It was made to tell a story and to capture forever the life of one man and the many people he touched. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. She turns to talking of her son and calls him Gods blessing. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. (Photos of David and Kate with Zachary; Shirley being escorted from court). It would take two weeks. It left me looking for the impossibility of marking the film above the highest grade available on the festival's voting ballot. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Maintained by: Tracy Lane They are the opposite of Shirley Jane Turner. The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. But of course I didn't. to let out hints that Shirley Turner was the prime suspect. Blu-ray: MORRISON: Even more, the Bagbys' gloom was mixed with worry. Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. I got to go to the trial. 1 Photo. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. And we came back. Unidentified Man #25: I love them very much. They are warm. Andrew came to St. John's. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up.
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